H1N1 Must See - very important to everyone

[zenyth]

Well said, Jules!

I find it kind of cool that you and I have been investigating the same topics...and have been coming up with the same answers. So...if you are crazy, so am I. I feel so much better seeing someone out there had the courage to write these things down, there is so much to learn, so many things that people don't see, and so very many sick things going on.
I would add to your comments, but you wrote them so intelligently and in a comprehensive manner, I would only be repeating you.

You will never be able to reach or convince all the people...but you know what? You reached me. My husband is no longer wanting the flu shot, and I convinced quite a few people at work as well. But, they were already skeptical of the flu shot, it didn't take much convincing. Here in Canada, I find a lot of people I know are beginning to wake up and question the things you are talking about. This makes me happy, perhaps we are not all doomed to dive off the cliff of humanity like lemmings. Whatever a person's opinions and decisions are...at least we are now talking about it and starting to think for ourselves. It is a start.
Bravo on your research!

-your fan,
Zenyth

[jules10003]

Hi Zenyth:

I am glad that your husband has second thoughts about taking that vaccine. It was just last year that a lady where I go and shop for my material took the regular flu shot and became very sick and so sick that she was off work. When the H1N1 flu vaccine was produced in Austria they showed a lady who took such a vaccine back in 1976 and contracted a disease known as "Guillaine Baré syndrome" and she became paralyzed and her husband had to carry her everywhere and to put her in a wheelchair. She got therapy and now walks with braces on her legs like the people who contracted polio from the past years. People cannot sue the pharmaceutical companies, nor the doctors nor the government for damages sustained.

Do you remember about the people here in Canada, the US and elsewhere who were hemopheliancs as well as healthy people contracting HIV and AIDS from contaminated blood products. Well guess who was responsible for all that - Clinton as well as Chrétien and a string of others. People think that I am making it all up but I am not I go through everything with a fine tooth comb. There isn't a government on this whole entire planet that I trust. I know so much that people would be heading for the hills in fright. I keep quiet. You know Zenyth that you can talk yourself to pieces and people would think that we are crazy and we do our best to warn people.

I am not talking about UFO's even though they may exist - I don't listen to those things. I have seen two men who spoke about that and they were working for the US government in top secret positions and one was working in the underground bases and both men were assassinated for spilling top secrets. I met one man personally a couple of years ago who told me a few things but kept quiet about other things since he worked for the US military in the past. I speak about what is real in front of me and what is going on. I know what is going to go on soon and the father of GW even spoke about it on TV back in 90 or 91. A lot of people didn't know what he was talking about except for the most educated and brightest of society. There are many books written on the subject and I know where the top part is - whose controlling it all. The rest are all just the puppets opening their mouths and signalling in masonic hand signals and gestures and people who are not in the secret societies don't know what they are talking about.

I have noticed that many people here seem to be wary of me - maybe because of what I know. I am very helpful at times when I can be to people but many don't appreciate me at all. Many people may think I am crazy and they don't know me at all. I felt very much like quitting this site since so many are not appreciative at all. Well one thing is when the shots go around (vaccines) and many become very sick and mamed it will be way too late to make a return. The best way to keep healthy is hand washing many times a day with soap and water and staying home when there are colds and flus and get over that by staying warm and drinking plenty of fluids. If complications then you go to the hospital otherwise you stay home and treat yourself. Vaccines only give you the disease. Oh before I sign off I once heard the doctor who invented the polio vaccine with another admit that the polio shot gave people the disease and that was on video. Doctors take a cut on all the prescriptions that they give to the people. My husband's uncle was a doctor of internal medicine and my eldest sister was a nurse so I know a lot of what goes on. I was a "candy striper" back in the mid 60's era and I didn't have the vaccines and I didn't get sick either from the patients. A lot of this is a hoax to sell people the drugs.

I will soon be going with my daughter to get her blood test since she has hypothyroid and she has a doctor's appointment at the end of the month. She is stuck on Synthroid for the rest of her life. She has to go through this every three months. She is at work now and we will pick her up soon.[/quote]

[--mary--]

[jules10003]

Mary for your information we don't eat hot dogs or any of that crap in my household. We eat the very best food - only Canadians and Americans eat that garbage.
As for your tin foil hat comment you will find out the very hard way like a lot of people and believe me it is all coming soon and much sooner than you think. Your children and grandchildren have no future. Let's put it that way.

[--mary--]

[samanthaG]

You remind me of people who read the
National Enquirer and quote it as factual knowledge. I remember in a university psychology class three decades ago, this middle aged house wife type person who decided to take a course. She stood and argued with the prof. vehemently that ESP did indeed exist because of all these CASES she read about in the Enquirer. She was dead serious and did not
'get' why her POV just was not credible. Critical thinking and knowledge are a must when one reads thinks like this.

[zenyth]

I think everyone has a right to freedom of speech and opinion. I don't think everyone has the right to insult people when their opinions differ. We are having a discussion in what is supposed to be a freindly medium, and everyone's opinions are welcome. However, even though I agree with Jules, I have no hate towards those who don't, I respect their right to voice counter-arguments.
But, why throw insults? You don't present a counter-discussion, you only threw insults and negativity into the conversation. I agree a person has to be careful when discerning what is real or not, but unless you actually research things, how do you really know? With that aside, however, I still see no need to insult people. Jules, no matter what your opinion is of her, is still a good hearted person who believes she is trying to help others in this brutal world we live in. I see no need to perpetuate hate in a world already filled with it. I find her conversation interesting, and do not think she is a crazy person. I am able to carry a conversation with those I even disagree with without throwing insults when I don't agree or understand.

[meli728]

Wow... that is all I will say about this thread.

I will also add that the Canadian Government is paying for this shot and recommending it. To me that is reason enough to get it, but I work in the health care field so I am definitely getting it. Yes, some people will have side effects, some serious, from the shot, but overall it is safer than getting the H1N1 virus.

[krystals40]

I know there is alot of controversy on this subject. I am not against immunization however ... I will not be getting this H1N1 needle. Just something about it makes my stomache turn and I always listen to my instincts.
I hope and pray that everyone who does get the vaccine and who don't, will have a safe and healthy future.

The choice should be your own........Krystal

[Happytobehere]

Well. I am not getting the shot either. Not because of this reason, but just like you Krystal. It just doesn't sit right with me. I have yet to ever get a flu shot, I have no respitory (or heart) problems, I wash my hands ALOT. Oh, and I am one of those few who actually rests when I get sick, and avoid using antibiotics unless it is a must.. I think the last time I took antibiotics I was like 16 and had strep throat ..

The one other big thing to watch for is hands to face since it enters through nasal, eyes and mouth, so really watch your hands.... They are comparing this to the Spanish Flu from WW1 era, so reading about it and how it swept the world is kindof scary...