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mouse
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 888
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Chatty Cat wrote: | Lyndafaye: You say you could have had 12 kids through "no fault" of yours or your husbands because birth control doesn't work for every woman.
Puh-lease!! Ever heard of getting your tubes tied or hubby having a vasectomy? Or both? Believe me, if someone's serious about not having more kids, they do something about it not just make excuses!! |
I beleive that Lyndafae was stating that she could(could being the operative word here)have 12 kids if she wanted to,not that she was planning to.If you read some of her posts,you would notice that she has grown children,who have children of their own.chattyca:do you have or want to have kids?If yes,how many? |
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lyndafaye
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 764
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Chatty Cat wrote: | Lyndafaye: You say you could have had 12 kids through "no fault" of yours or your husbands because birth control doesn't work for every woman.
Puh-lease!! Ever heard of getting your tubes tied or hubby having a vasectomy? Or both? Believe me, if someone's serious about not having more kids, they do something about it not just make excuses!! |
Dear Chatty Cat, I wasn't aware that I was making excuses. I was stating facts. sorry if you misunderstood me.
Also another fact surgery is not always successful.
here is a scenario for you to think about.
A catholic couple have the correct number of children set by you. She has a tubal ligation unfortunately she gets pregnant again. She and her husband decide that another child would not be such a bad thing but it might make money a bit tight.
Do they go against the church and their own desires and have an abortion or do they follow church teaching and have the child.
I for one do not condone abortion for birth control.
I personally would never have an abortion unless the baby was going to be unhealthy and never able to have a normal life.
Now before you jump all over me for that statement here is my reasoning.
I have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue which took over my life when I caught the flu while pregnant with my first son.
It goes into remission for periods of time but it still rules my life.
I am a mental retardation counselor so I know the work that is involved in raising a handicapped child. I just could not do it. And I do not think I could walk away from any child of mine and leave his care to the government. So better to never bring him into the world that is cruel and uncaring.
If I was not disabled I might be able to take on the care and love needed but I do know my limits.
But just to show you that I am not quite the idiot you seem to think me. I had 2 children. both grew up with a lot of love and enough material things to keep up with their friends and they never went hungry or in their bare feet during the winter.
They are both married and son #1 is married has a very good paying career with a wife who also works at a good paying career. They have 3 children all loved and cared for.
Son #2 married this year and he and his wife plan to start a family this coming year. They may have to move to another country since her being Chinese and living in China they are limited to one child. They would like 2 or 3 so they may have to leave China for the year and then they could go back since he is Canadian the rule of one child if she has him outside the country would not apply to them. But they are planning on coming back to Canada to live in the next few years.
So I may not have had the large family I wanted but I now get to love my grandchildren and do things for the less fortunate children in the world.
I do this by making wooden toys and doll clothes for christmas toy drives in town.
I teach children to use their imaginations with the toys and by writing stories to read and have adventures.
I am a children's story author and that is one of my hobbies.
Most of my hobbies involve children so in a ways I have a huge family I just don't know them all.
Just because people don't think the same way you do does not make them idiots.
How boring it would be to go through life all thinking the same thing.
Life is an adventure so you should enjoy the time you spend on the earth and learn to live each day to the fullest.
Learn from others and don't be quick to judge them.
remember they have the same right to judge you as well and how well do you think you would come off? |
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Golden Eagle Moderator
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Chatty Cat:
Why is it when ever you post to any thread you have such wonderful advice, and then you bring it all down with your post scrips or when you make comment on someone else's post and retaliate to their advice? You have no right to do this! This is not a place to mock other posters who are trying to send their message to the OP. No one has done this to you, in any of the threads!
You are not bringing positive things to this site, only negativity and controversy and you need to keep that out of here!
Furthermore:
God save us from the idiots of the world!! More importantly, God save the children from the idiots! It'll be so great when people are required to get licensed and trained in order to become parents.
I object thoroughly to you taking God's name in vain, as you have here! _________________ Be an organ donor; give your heart to Jesus.
Exercise daily; walk with the Lord. |
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lyndafaye
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 764
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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here are a few tips on hand me downs. what family doesn't get hand me downs parents love them children not so much.
winter coats and boots. if the coat is handed down from an older sibling get new mitts and scarf and touque for the recipient.
clothing see if you can add an applique patch to personalize it for the new owner. Or dye it a colour they prefer if that is possible.
bikes make sure they fit and get a new helmet. personalize it by adding those streamers to the handguards or just buy new ones. If you have to put a name on them to help prevent them being stolen print it where it isn't seen so they can be handed down. If it is beat up repaint it.
When you are looking for new toys post on a bulletin board what you want. Someone may have exactly what you want and you might get a good deal. I have given away many things that I am no longer wanting to keep since it isn't being used.
To save money on toys I used to pick out 2 from each child and put them in the linen closet. They were not missed but a month or so later on some snowy or rainy day when they were bored I would go to the closet and haul out one for each of them. They were like new toys all over again and I got an hour of peace.
For baby things (toys) I bought a big package of those colourful cleaning sponges. They made great building blocks and didn't hurt anything when thrown around.
When they out grew those I had cleaning sponges as well.
I kept the margarine tubs and yogurt containers in a large bag and when we went to the beach they had a lot of different size molds to make sand castles.
They also used these to make castles in the house.
You can also go to the lumber store and ask if they have bits and pieces of odds and ends from lumber they have sold and cut.
some places will give them to you but you might have to pay a small amount.
take them home sand the edges and then mix kool aide with water and soak the wood in the different colours. great for building blocks.
also the kool aide will not harm them but it may come off on their hands but not to a great extent. and that is better than toxic chemicals or perfumes. |
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mouse
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 888
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Chatty Cat wrote: | Lyndafaye: You say you could have had 12 kids through "no fault" of yours or your husbands because birth control doesn't work for every woman.
Puh-lease!! Ever heard of getting your tubes tied or hubby having a vasectomy? Or both? Believe me, if someone's serious about not having more kids, they do something about it not just make excuses!! |
Do you have kids of your own?If not,perhaps you might want to consider your own advice of taking care of thing surgically to prevent having any... |
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asker
Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I had to pipe in after reading what you said....
I have 5 children myself. My husband and I had great jobs. I had to go on LOA because one of my kids was very sick baby and was hospitalized often which meant I missed a lot of work. My husband made good money working full time until he got laid off at Christmas.
Times are tight now for us...we already have 5 kids and we weren't in that position in the beginning and now we are. We just have to make do and my husband is looking for work and I'm working part-time at this time which makes me as much money as a full time job. I'm in a high paying job.
My point here is that you can't judge unless you know the FULL story.
The poster just wanted to know how to budget.....and is looking for tips and being personally attacked isn't one of them.
Here are some tips...
Use Vinegar for most of your cleaning jobs; it's great for laundry; acts similar to bleach which gets the urine smell out of bedding or undies. Half vinegar and water for windows/mirror and use newspapers to clean the windows/mirrors with. It makes a good floor cleaner if mixed with water as well.
As for food; you can use half a pound of ground beef for spaghetti, chili, etc. Any leftover veggies can be pureed and added to it as well.
Veggies are cheap where I live so use veggies for veggie platter for the kids to snack on and mini bagels are great as well. You just toast them and put butter on. I get a large bag of them at Costco; the mini ones are way cheaper at Costco than supermarket so is meat. Any seasonal fruits can be frozen and made into shakes, muffins, jam, etc...
Use flat sheets for curtains; sew them into curtains. PVC pipes makes great curtain rods as well and is cheaper.
That's all I can think of at the moment...there's a great websites out there if you goggle "frugal meals" and there's "Dollar Stretcher" website as well. Good luck! |
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Happytobehere
Joined: 09 Sep 2009 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Nice advice on the vinegar! I just rediscovered it myself one day when I ran out of laundry soap
I use it alot when I run the dishwasher as well. It helps clean out the deposits in the machinery.. it is so good on so many levels!!! Thanks for the other ideas! |
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bracas5
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Happytobehere, how do you use the vinegar in the dishwasher?? I have deposits in mine and would love to know how to clean it out.
One of my money saving tips is to fill the water bottle for my water cooler (hubby got free at work) with regular tap water. I clean out my cooler and water bottle with vinegar. I have 2 bottles that I rotate, so I fill one and let it sit until the other one is empty, the clorine taste evaporates in that time, so the water is just like filling it with "spring" water at the grocery, at a fraction of the price. |
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lyndafaye
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 764
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I just read these 2 tips for using baking soda.
the one I already knew but the laundry one is new to me.
let me know if you try it as I can't test it with no children or crayons in the house.
# use baking soda to scrub plastic items like "Tupperware" when they age and develop that "sticky' or "tacky" feeling. The baking soda restores a smooth and bright appearance.
# Baking soda can remove crayon from laundry. I washed and dryed a load of whites with a black crayon! I thought the clothes were ruined, but I was told to put 1 C. baking soda in the wash and rewash the whole load again. IT WORKED! I was surprised, but very thankful  |
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Happytobehere
Joined: 09 Sep 2009 Posts: 37
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure if there's another way to do it, I just dump a cup of vinegar in to it. I believe there's a stronger product, to do the first main clean, but I have been doing this about once a week since I got my dishwasher 5 years ago and have little to no buildup from the soaps I'm not sure if it's the most accurate way to do it, my mom just told me to do that . |
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Sonia C Moderator

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 214 Location: Southern Ontario
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: Re: hi |
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Wow, some really good tips here in the last few posts about how to be frugal. Thanks - I have learnt a few things too.
Good to see this thread back on track.
| Gabbyev wrote: | | Hi maybe this will help with siblings fighting , when my kids started the petty fighting I woudn't say a word I would just take them by the arm and lead them into an empty room tell them to work it out and come out when they can be nice . keep in mind if it was a serious fight I always stepped in and didn't let it get out of had . The best one I did was when the kids would fight in the car , it drove me nuts as I was alway afraid I would get into an accident so I stated to the kids if there was one fight I will pull off the road and would not drive the car until it was quiet again . This worked well as the kids finally figured it out that the more they fought the longer it took us to get there . For the first few weeks that I did this I pulled over many times . LOL ! It was so nice driving with the kids after they realized that I ment it and would not put up with it . hope this helps .... Gabbyev |
Another great peice of advice.
I don't have any kids but I heard that active listening helps. I'm sure there is info on this technique if you google it but esentially it is about taking the time to listen, validate their feelings as well as calmly and rationally addressing their concerns. They are little but they feel things too. Children are gifts from heaven and precious.
A frugal tip - which I am sure you are using is to "hand me down" any clothing that isn't worn out. One of my outfits as a infant was handed down to me then passed along to three others. And that was just one outfit. As a single parent my mom welcomed hand me downs. They weren't always the greatest but it is better than the alternative.
Hope this helps. _________________ Cheers!
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When worries call, hang up.
Life is a gift. Open the box and enjoy! |
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Candice
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Too many kids? |
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| cdheilly7 wrote: | | Hi, I am a mother to seven children. Their ages are 10, 9, 6, 4, 3, 20 months and 8 months. Yes they are all mine and my husbands. People always seem to ask that question. The thing I want to know about is infighting I will call it, the nitpicking and bugging that siblings do. It seems to me that I am breaking up battles all day long. If there are any other parents out there with large families I would love to talk with you just to share viewpoints. Maybe tips on ways to make budgets go futher, i always seem to run out of money before the month end. |
Hi there, i only have 3 kids but this sounds like the exact same thing i am going through. my kids constantly bicker, fight, yell and whine and money is always tight, no matter how many raises my husband receives or how well we budget. there never seems to be enough money.
i don't have any advice for you but i just want to say that you are definitely not alone!
children will always fight that is something you can not change. everyone has different personalities and feelings and they all collide with eachother. the best thing is for them to have a break from eachother whenever possible but not as a punishment or reward but as part of normal life. no one should have to be around another person ALL the time, everyone needs a break once in awhile, even spouses! |
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